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Why I hate the doctrines of grace

August 26, 2011
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Why I hate the doctrines of grace

And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ, till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ. Ephesians 4:11-13

My friends who know me to have a love and passion for the teachings of scripture often called “the doctrines of grace” may scratch their heads at such a title, but I assure you this article has nothing to do with sovereignty, election, or the truly unmerited grace of God.  Instead it has to do with the manner in which these truths have been presented to the Church since the reformation.  The doctrines of grace, as commonly taught, are actually only one half of the doctrines of grace taught in scripture, yet they are presented as a whole.  The other half have been lost in the pages of scripture since the time of the reformers, up through the puritans, and down to modern reformed and Calvinistic teachers.  In fact, I have found that the groups who most vocally teach the doctrines of grace during their weekly meeting are often the ones who exercise it the least.  Take a minute and read these scriptures before we go any further.  I have bolded some text to help detect the pattern laid out here concerning Gods grace. 

There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. But to each one of us grace was given according to the measure of Christ’s gift. Therefore He says: “ When He ascended on high, He led captivity captive, And gave gifts to men.” Ephesians 4:4-8 

As each one has received a gift, minister it to one another, as good stewards of the manifold grace of God. If anyone speaks, let him speak as the oracles of God. If anyone ministers, let him do it as with the ability which God supplies, that in all things God may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom belong the glory and the dominion forever and ever. Amen. 1 Peter 4:10-11

For I say, through the grace given to me, to everyone who is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think soberly, as God has dealt to each one a measure of faith. For as we have many members in one body, but all the members do not have the same function, so we, being many, are one body in Christ, and individually members of one another. Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, let us use them: if prophecy, let us prophesy in proportion to our faith; or ministry, let us use it in our ministering; he who teaches, in teaching; he who exhorts, in exhortation; he who gives, with liberality; he who leads, with diligence; he who shows mercy, with cheerfulness. Romans 12-3:8

The grace of God, as clearly show in the scriptures, is inseparable from the gifts given to the many membered body of Christ.  God’s grace is not relegated to five points of doctrine and it has to do with far more then the manner in which God elects men.  The true grace of God has as much to do with the gifts given to various members of the body as with the salvation given to the various members of the body.  This is so that the Church might truly function like a body, rather than a roman catholic modeled religious institution.

To put it another way, where one man stands and preaches every Sunday there is a lack of grace to some degree.  I know what I am writing applies to many well meaning Godly men, some even used mightily of the Lord despite their falling short in this area, but this does not make it any less true.  A local Church may make up for this lack by way of being strong in other areas, but there is a lack none the less.

Looking at the clear, living, and powerful word of God, we see that Christ has not only led captivity captive, but He also gave gifts to men.  These gifts do not only included teaching, but also prophesy, speaking in tongues, exhortation, giving, healing, evangelizing, and so forth.  This differs greatly from the reformed crowd that teaches that Christ has led captivity captive, but has only given a teaching gift – and that to the senior pastor.  What’s worse is when senior pastors come right out and say they believe the other gifts to the church have ceased.  So instead of the grace of God being manifest through the many membered body, the focus becomes on expository preaching, performed by a senior pastor that holds an unbiblical position.  How such a senior pastor can stand and teach that all other gifts have ceased besides his make believe super teaching one is beyond me.

The need of the Church is not expository preaching

The Church arguably needs expository teaching, with gifted elders who labor in the word, but not expository preaching.  Preaching in the New Testament is primarily for the open air and in church planting, not for the weekly meeting until the end of time. Yet one of the major focuses of those who promote the doctrines of grace is on the expository preaching of these doctrines to the church.  This is accomplished by standing at a pulpit and dominating the church meeting week after week with such. The thinking must go something like this “I will mature the body of Christ by preaching great truths, even at the expense of retarding the body of Christ by refusing the means of truth by which God has ordained to mature it”.  Read that last sentence again.

Rather than a clergy-laity religious system, the bible really does show the Church teaching and admonishing one another as the called out saints of a risen Christ.  This does not negate true eldership or the need for gifted teachers in the Church, rather this is the setting in which all gifts are used for edification.  Yet many true brethren think it better to stand at a pulpit and preach a mini package of Calvinistic truth week after week then to raise their churches to live out the truth of truly being the body of Christ.  I don’t want to sound too harsh coming against true teaching pastors that are off in this area, and purposely am not naming names.  I will even make a point to say that in certain times and places God has seen to richly bless and use these men.  I am thankful for them as brethren, respect them as elders, and yet in love and boldness must cry out against their empty traditions with the full authority of God’s word.

Imagine that I invited you to church and you came in to find one man standing a at a podium speaking in tongues for an hour every Sunday – you would know something was out of line (unless you were raised to know nothing but this tradition).  In the same way, having one man stand at a podium and “teaching” (really it is preaching, teaching is relational) week after week and calling it a church meeting is almost as out of line as the example I gave.  One man preaching week after week is in line with scripture only when planting a church as I stated earlier, until elders are raised and the body starts to function like a body.  Yet in most of the reformed crowd the body is never taught to function as a body, it is always being planted, but never growing into maturity.

The biblical method to mature the body in this generation has less to do with teaching the doctrines of grace then it does with simply not retarding the saints through an unbiblical puritanical or clergy-laity religious system. The call for the hour is not to teach the “doctrines of grace”, it is to teach the whole council of the word of God!  This includes laboring to build up the body of Christ through the manifold grace of God.  It is time to shun the thought that we can build up Gods church into maturity while spurning the clear means by which God ordained for it to be built up.  What an utter contradiction to reject and suppress the manifold grace of God and yet claim to be a teacher of God’s grace.  What can be said in its defense?

Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom, teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord. ~ Colossians 3:16

 

[Edited to make small correction]


The Church did not begin in the 1500′s

August 23, 2011
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The Church did not begin in the 1500′s.

King james is not on par with King Jesus.

There was a true Church before the reformation and a true Bible before the 1611 KJV.


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From the least to the greatest

August 21, 2011
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http://ianvincent.wordpress.com/2011/08/21/from-the-least-to-the-greatest/

But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, says the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. And they shall teach no more every man his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, says the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Jeremiah 31:33-34, Hebrews 8:10-12

Meaning, even the least in the Body of Christ knows Jesus just as much as the greatest. What a revival and what glory in the Church when this is believed and acted upon, and those who suppress this truth are thrown out. False teachers keep people in ignorance of this stupendous truth in order to gain followers.


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ecumenical movement thread

August 21, 2011
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Comment taken from http://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=40563&forum=35

Re: Christian unity in the guise of deception: ecumenical movement

I think of Rick Warren…who claims millions under his influence; a champion of unity among the Muslim, the Jew, the Catholic and the Christian…proclaiming the same God ruling among them all, and the houses of worship as a global network to facilitate his socialist agenda. The NAR also, and IHOP, which practices the Roman Catholic Babylonian Monasticism as the gospel in their prayer rooms., and receives ALL other Catholic prayer ministries as fellow workers. These include Mike Bickle, Rick Joyner, C. Peter Wagner, and there-by the entire crowd that follows them. Bickle and Joyner travelled to the Vatican, and met the Pope. I think of YWAM, and Loren Cunningham, and the Billy Graham Crusade organization, and Campus Crusades for Christ….who ALL throw back the Catholic converts to Jesus back to the jaws of the Roman Beast. As far back as 1994…the War was on. There was a international Unity document signed called “Evangelicals and Catholics together” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangelicals_and_Catholics_Together “The evangelical signatories include Bill Bright of Campus Crusade for Christ, Os Guinness of the Trinity Forum, Richard Mouw of Fuller Theological Seminary, Mark Noll of Wheaton College, J. I. Packer of Regent College, Pat Robertson of Regent University, Larry Lewis of the Home Mission Board of the Southern Baptist Convention, Richard Land of the Christian Life Commission, Jesse Miranda of the Assemblies of God, and John White[disambiguation needed] of Geneva College.” Southern Baptists and the Assembly of God?..This was unthinkable 40 years ago….but not now. The result though , is much more subtle, for it is chiefly influenced in numbing Doctrine. Soon, extreme grace floods in, God is Love, and repentance from dead works is a dirty word, and self-denial and the Cross we must all bear to die to ourselves…to live to Him, are historical. Then we see the fruit of ecumenical thinking. It is all about mankind, the blessing that God gives us…Health, Happiness and Prosperity becomes our rights, and of course the world also. Blood washed Gospel teaching and Preaching are replaced by messages for a better life…Your Best Life Now…your best marriage, family life…on and on. This has replaced Evangelicalism….and the sad thing is that most of the sheeples don’t have a clue. God is good…and the Romans, the Hindi’s, The Muslim, the Buddhist…ALL worship Him…with just a different language. I’m glad you brought this up….because it needs to be exposed and confronted…and Preached against…as the poison lie. The church needs to return to the fiery Salt of the Word…and know their Bibles…and believe…that there is only one Way to God….to the Truth, and the Life…and it is His Blood, and only His blood, that can cleanse you, and YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN! Then you have the Holy Spirit of Promise that will GUIDE you into all Truth…as you walk with Him. I have led Catholics to Christ. I ask them to renounce the adoration of Catholic Mary as the demon Queen of the Heavens, a vile devil, and never pray to, our exalt her again. I also proclaim the same over the Pope, and his legion of unclean Priests, as servants of Satan, and ALL of their lying doctrines, and pray with Catholics to renounce the evil, and receive the true Jesus, savior of all. Now, we have Islam to deal with the same way. Allah is a demon…and people need Jesus; the truth. This is a wonderful statement of how and why the Gospel message is salt and fire…and the Truth in us is the salt of the World. TRUTH! 20 “Bring me a new bowl,” Elisha said. “Put some salt in it.” So they brought it to him. 21 Then he went out to the spring. He threw the salt into it. He told them, “The Lord says, ‘I have made this water pure. It will never cause death again. It will never keep the land from producing crops again.’ ” 22 The water has stayed pure to this very day. That’s what Elisha had said would happen. Preach and stand on the Truth…that gospel of the Martyrs that stood the test….as they were butchered and burnt by that sweet Catholic Rule. It has not changed today..just the faces, and the laws that prohibit the same.


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Submit

August 16, 2011
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Ephesians 5:20-21  giving thanks always and for everything to God the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, submitting to one another out of reverence for Christ.

Some months ago a brother came to our house and shared a word with us.   I have written about this brother before, he is very humble, he is normally very quiet during meetings, lives a very simple life, and he certainly does not carry an air of authority with him.  He was talking to us about a falling out that happened with a sister quite some time ago.  She was saying all kinds of things about my family to other believers, yet never shared any of those things with us.  This even resulted in her outright slandering us to some of our good friends.  When confronted, she said something along the lines that the Lord told her she didn’t need to apologize for her actions.  I ended up writing a very strongly worded letter to her, showing her that she was in willful sin, that she knew her brother had something against her and no gift would be accepted on the altar until she was reconciled.

So back to the story, this brother comes over and says we should approach this sister again (it’s been several months now) and not bring up anything that she did wrong, only apologize for our own fault in the matter, and invite her back into our lives that we might be reconciled.  There was a little pride that had to be put to death because of the pain she caused our family, but we sought this reconciliation out because the Holy Spirit bore witness to what this brother shared with us.  Although the sister refused true reconciliation, the Lord taught me a lot about submission through this.  Unlike the mindless popish clergy-laity type ”submission” in evangelical churches today, I had actually just been taught a small lesson in submitting myself to a brother.

It actually felt wonderful to submit to this brother, despite the flesh.  To know that there are true brethren that are members of the same body, who read, hear, and understand the word of God not just in letter but in Spirit and in truth, and the Lord has empowered them to all this for our good, for the building up of the body. There is joy and freedom in true submission!

Now consider this email I got from someone on youtube.  They had left a comment on a video about a preacher, saying that because he sometimes preaches in institutional churches, that anyone who listened to said preacher was a false Christian.  I told the commentator that he was speaking of the flesh and in turn the commentator sent me an email saying “I am an elder.  I’ll give you one chance to repent”.  I politely told him that he could take such nicolatian ramblings back to hell.

Who can you truly submit to, someone who you don’t really know, who tries to force you to through religious positioning, or a brother who brings the word of the Lord that is grounded in humility, faith, hope, and love?  Brothers, especially the elders, anytime someone is in error, will you approach them like mr youtube elder, or will your love for the body, and knowledge of your own shortcomings, being grounded and rooted in the humility of Christ, seek to be truly reconciled.  Although I am not an elder, I know that I never want to come across as mr youtube elder to my brethren again.  Brethren, those who are elders, it should truly be a joy to submit to you especially, but sadly most elders, despite their air of authority, don’t have the spiritual authority of the meek brother who I am blessed to have sit in my living room from time to time.

In Christ,

Jim


sola confused

August 15, 2011
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1Corinthians 14:26  What then, brothers? When you come together, each one has a hymn, a lesson, a revelation, a tongue, or an interpretation. Let all things be done for building up.

Sola scripture – except for the ones that clearly show God chooses to speak to the Church through various members of the body, using various gifting of the Spirit.  Those scriptures no longer apply today.  This faulty thinking is the result of the spirits of Calvin and Luther being more prominent in the camp than the Holy Spirit.  Love my reformed brethren, always defending the faith, but it’s time to examine your traditions against the word of God (sola scripture). 

In Christ,

Jim


A strong word from Watchman Nee

August 7, 2011
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Removed post because it can be misunderstood.  The whole thing can be read here. http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/localchurches.htm

The short of it, lets not make our own denomination by seperating ourselves from other true brethren because they fellowship in a denomination.  Lets love them and show them the truth, even while shunning the heretical denominational system.


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