Why do some evangelicals hate democrats

Posted: September 5, 2012 in apostasy, harlot church
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This is a response to the constant evangelical rhetoric about democrats and president Obama that I read (scripture commands us to pay taxes to and pray for him, not bad mouth all the time). I want to give a couple of points that should be considered in all of this:

  • The anti gay marriage and anti-abortion causes of the republican party affected little change under the last 8 years of the republican reign
  • Evangelical christianity hates gay marriage but is full of greed and divorce/remarriage epidemic in their churches
  • If they really care so much about biblical marriage why not take the plank out of their own eye first
  • Picking abortion and homosexuality as the two sins to denounce is a pretty safe bet as these happen to be the two sins not common to those on the right
  • Since God hates divorce along with homosexuality – why not fight for legislation to make divorce illegal along with gay marriage
  • Many evangelical churches have armed service appreciation days and proudly fly american flags in support of this
  • What of the old iraqi women who was praying for a gospel witness for her son – will she stand up at the judgment against the largely war happy christian rights who sent over missles instead of missionaries
  • This movement has been a catalyst for the unholy allegiance of evangelicals uniting with catholics and mormons to uphold “biblical values” such as at abortion rallies
  • This is also a great way for satan to present Christ and Christianity falsely to the world

As much bad as good seems to come from the christian right.  I do not write to condemn anyone but to call attention to it.  My closing exhortation would be:

Love your enemies. Fight spiritual wars with spiritual weapons.  Unless you pray for the president, stop all of the rhetoric.  I do not mean those who write from the spirit about such things but those who pass fleshy political commentary off as being spiritual.  Take in a pregnant single mother.  Take a lost homosexual sinner out to lunch, preach, love, and pray him into the kingdom.  Go to a dangerous inner city night club and preach against abortion, fornication, drunkenness and greed to the thugs standing in line.  If you are still alive after plowing up the ground a little then boldly preach Christ and him crucified.  Be willing to have your life turned upside down in serving these people the kingdom of God in power.

This is not an endorsement for the “godless liberal” party either, it is a warning about the christian right.  It is also not a condemnation against those brethren who passionately want to stop the evils of abortion and militant homosexuality in our country and are just trying to do everything they can in their power.  Just a reminder there is error on every side and the very elect will be deceived if it were possible.  Go about it God’s way, in love, in humility, and in the power of the spirit.

Mark 16:15  And he said to them, “Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel to the whole creation. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.

 

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  1. fleebabylon says:

    Mark 16:15 in the evangelical bible

    And american jesus said to them, “Go into all the USA and promote a type of morality with mormons and catholics. Whoever votes republican will be saved and whoever does not will be a godless liberal”.

  2. fleebabylon says:

    1Corinthians 5:9 I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people– not at all meaning the sexually immoral of this world, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler–not even to eat with such a one. For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge? God judges those outside. “Purge the evil person from among you.”

    The christian right has many evangelical church members very concerned with the sins of the left. This gives the evangelicals a sense of religious pride and self righteousness while diverting attention from the condition of their own lives and churches. Greed, divorce/remarriage, pornography, false prophesy, countless forms of false teaching, love of pleasure, and rampant worldliness consume the so called churches and bring reproach to the name of Christ. Does God then call this very group to judge the sins of non believers?

    Does this do anything besides further harden the hearts of liberals more against the truth, because they perceive Jesus to be a greedy, patriotic, self righteous pharisee and hypocrite like his supposed followers.

    Picture this in your mind – Jesus sitting and eating with sinners, bringing the kingdom to them.

    Compare that to Paul’s command to not fellowship with professing believers who are full of greed, idolatry, and unrepentant sexual sin.

    Seems like lunch with a homosexual or abortion doctor is a better option than worship service in the typical evangelical church.

    It will be more tolerable for sodom on the day of judgment than for this generation of self righteous religious hypocrites who are increased with political power and patriotic morality but are really poor, blind, miserable, and naked.

  3. Al Nelson says:

    Hey brother, how are you? I was just last night making a comparison. The Democrat party are like black witches full of all kinds of evil. The Republican party are like white witches, full of everything “good”. Yet in God’s eyes they are all still witches, manipulating the massessas they conjure up one lie after another. White and black doesn’t matter, God still condemns witchcraft.

  4. fleebabylon says:

    Al,

    That’s really good. I recently read this comment on the subject:

    “I’m pondering the ‘lesser of two evils’. Had the children of Israel been given the lesser of two evils to stand behind, I wonder which they would have chosen…baal or molech.”

    It fits nicely with what you are saying.

  5. fleebabylon says:

    PS – Whoever is president, we have a responsibility to remember them in our prayers and pay taxes to them!

  6. Reading your post, the word that came to mind was “allegiances.” Whether that allegiance is to a man, a method, a cause, country or political party makes little difference. Every one of them competes with our allegiance to Jesus Christ. Wouldn’t this be synonomous with serving two masters?
    In the end, we might call our particular choice of an allegiance “a duty,” “a right” or even as mentioned, “the lesser of two evils.” Nonetheless, hidden beneath is almost always an alterior motive that reigns within. Against those who may attack our securities- we justify the slaughter of innocents as a duty. Against the evils of government we justify our right to condemn them as evil. And in defiance of Jesus who is our only hope and security, we recruit others into our duties, rights and lesser than two evils ways of thinking.
    Unless I’m mistaken, all of the above are just more ways in which individuals are attempting to save themselves and their preferred standard of living at the expense of those around them. A true born again blood bought saint no longer saves his skin but has learned to sacrifice it for the benefit of those around them. After all, his heart, home and ultimate happiness reside in heaven and with the Author and Originator of it.

    • fleebabylon says:

      “Nonetheless, hidden beneath is almost always an alterior motive that reigns within. Against those who may attack our securities- we justify the slaughter of innocents as a duty.

      Very good insight too brother. I have noticed those same tendencies (on a much smaller scale) in my own life. Little things at home or work where I forget that I am a servant of Christ and seek to serve myself instead. Sometimes I forget that I am just a piece of dirt that was headed for judgment and hell before God poured out his grace upon me.

      Without his fatherly hand guiding, teaching, and admonishing me I would still be the chief proponent of every unholy abomination that I have mentioned on this thread. Just name the perceived enemy that was threatening my christian american dream and I would pray Gods blessing on you as you headed overseas to send them to hell.

  7. Earl Lear says:

    Hi Jim,

    You must have read my brain, because I had a post just about completed which said almost the same thing:

    http://detroitrevival.org/devotions/63-consider-this-before-casting-stones-at-the-gay-community

    My Facebook friends are all recruiting republicans as well, the point was well taken above, I’m going to put that on my wall tomorrow. 🙂

    Brother, please know that I will continue to pray for Bethany’s dad and all of you.

    Much Love!
    Earl J

  8. ChristopherV says:

    Jim,

    The ministry I shared with you by email publishes a quarterly newsletter. July 2003 had an article that contained the following:

    ” Would someone please tell me what is wrong with the legal system in our country allowing two men or two women to enter into a legal contract with each other? Could it be that all those self-righteous people in the Church who are up in arms (that’s another idiom) over “gay marriage” aren’t looking at the situation the same way that God looks at such things? What are they so afraid of? Will their “holiness” be any more defiled by living in a society that is openly nonchristian than it is living in one that pretends to be Christian? I don’t think so. If their “holiness” is so easily contaminated by their association with sinners, those folks had better not even go out to buy groceries. Their “Christianity” might absolutely shrivel up and blow away.”

    Satan loves any distraction that can sidetrack a Believer. Then again, we’ve made it easy.

    In Him,

    Chris

    • fleebabylon says:

      Chris-

      I guess I am 9 years behind on seeing what is going on! This is some great wisdom you shared here:

      “Will their “holiness” be any more defiled by living in a society that is openly nonchristian than it is living in one that pretends to be Christian? I don’t think so.”

      This goes along with 1 Corinthians 5 and judging sin inside the Church, not in the world. I guess for many American christians they would consider our country to be their church though even if they dont come out and say it. That is the idolatry that is at the heart of much of their actions.

      In Christ -Jim

      • ChristopherV says:

        Jim,

        You’re not 9 years behind, you are right on time. (the publication started in 1990). There is more than enough content on the website. Check it out.

        In Him,

        Chris

  9. ian vincent says:

    I’ve often noted these days that the NT writers never bad-mouthed Caesar or the Roman Empire, and while they knew it was very dangerous to do so, their absence of harsh words against Rome was not purely bcos it was risky to do so, but bcos they knew that God had appointed Rome in her place, and to call a God-appointed Government evil has the risk of implying that God has done evil in appointing it. I think they were all aware that Rome was God’s judgment against backslidden Israel. Obama is God’s judgment on America like Caesar was on Israel.

    The rise of the homosexual lobby is God’s judgment : God handing them over to a depraved mind.

    Yes, Caesar was an evil man, as is Obama, as is Romney. In fact Caesar far exceeded in wickedness than any of these, and yet we don’t hear a bad word about him.

    As for voting, the way i see it now, i think it’s a matter of personal conscience.

    Also, in the early Church, the saints understood that the Kingdom – the Church advances regardless of, and independent of, whatever earthly kingdoms are in power.

    • ian vincent says:

      In the same vein, it’s wrong to rail against MYSTERY BABYLON the Harlot (Rev 17) and her false prophets and teachers. It’s just as wrong as railing against Obama

    • fleebabylon says:

      “As for voting, the way i see it now, i think it’s a matter of personal conscience.”

      Me too brother, I don’t see any problem with believers voting though I no longer do. Seems like it is completely a matter of conscience as you said. I cringe to hear some say that believers have a duty to vote or that they have a duty to not vote. I don’t see a duty either way.

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  11. ian vincent says:

    RE: ” Sometimes I forget that I am just a piece of dirt that was headed for judgment and hell before God poured out his grace upon me. ”

    Same here.

  12. ian vincent says:

    I used to think it was my duty to vote for the lesser of two evils, but then the lesser evil became too evil to vote for. If there was a candidate who was a TRUE disciple of Jesus (which would be a miracle) then i think Christians would be obliged to vote for him. But i don’t think that’s gonna happen.

  13. fleebabylon says:

    Some quotes from a christian forum where we discussed this some time back

    Do you see how we are programmed to pick things the Lord never intended for us. Since I’m not a republican, I must be a democrat? Since I’m not an armenian I must be a calvinist? The world gives us these things to choose from – even its religion.. baptist, nazarine, methodist, etc. No thanks – none of the above! Jesus is my king and His is my kingdom. I think that is a good mind to have brethren, that which was given from heaven and not false choices given from men.

    Luke 12:47 And that servant who knew his master’s will, and did not prepare himself or do according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.

    Those who profess to be Gods party while exploiting wage earners, teaching them to hate others, and sending Gods children to kill arabs overseas to secure american interests will have the greater damnation. Muslims and the typical liberal are just lost people following the agenda that lost people follow. I am not sticking up for them at all, but according to scripture it appears that they will be beaten only with a few stripes while the christian right will be beaten with many.

    Also, because I have been taken captive by the christian right in the past and have repented of it I am more outspoken about that.

    Brother, that is not it. It is something much bigger. Pledging allegiance to king ceaser over king Jesus. Striking hands of unity with the baals (glen beck, bill o’rielly, etc) to keep america a “christian” nation. I have nothing against a believer voting republican or democrat if they think they must choose the lesser of two evils. Though I don’t join in the voting I do not condemn anyone who does. I am talking about something much bigger that substitutes the gospel of america for the gospel of the kingdom.

    “Gods only plan is through the preaching of His Gospel… Folks it’s not through politics and everyone who is running around telling me that we are going to organize and legislate holiness – you don’t know your bibles! God raises up annointed fearless prophets and preachers of His word to bring a nation or generation to its knees, or to harden their hearts before judgement comes.” – David Wilkerson

  14. fleebabylon says:

    “It is also not a condemnation against those brethren who passionately want to stop the evils of abortion and militant homosexuality in our country”

    I want to make it perfectly clear that I hate abortion and homosexuality (as does our Father in heaven). I am not sticking up for these two terrible things in any way.

    In Christ -Jim

  15. Aussie says:

    Finally. I am in Australia, and cannot tell you what a relief it is to at last read something from an American christian re politics that is not an advertisement for the Republican party, under the guise of ‘promoting morality’. I can barely listen to the news in focus program on sermon audio because of some of the offensive propoganda on there: like ‘poor people are lazy etc’, they are protecting the rich and condeming the poor, and supporting a mormon to win? I have also been appalled for years, and it is the same over here at professing christians who preach so loudly against abortion, but do NOTHING to help single mothers. I guess the same applies to homosexual marriage, why arent they fighting as hard against divorce in the church? No, this whole ‘christian republican’ thing is NOT from God, it is based on self righteousness and greed, protecting and justifying their love of money, and displays a deep lack of knowledge of the heart of God. Thankyou for having the guts to speak out.

  16. Aussie says:

    “I want to make it perfectly clear that I hate abortion and homosexuality (as does our Father in heaven). I am not sticking up for these two terrible things in any way.” Quote-Jim

    I just want to add I also agree with the above statement.

  17. ian vincent says:

    With many Christians commentators their writings/messages are either an advertisement for the Republicans or the Democrats.

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